super je profitirao, nema sto... pa nek shortstacka i dalje..

HUSNG


$20/$40 No Limit Holdem
iPoker
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
SB Hero ($810)
BB SergioBelotti ($2,190)

Pre-Flop: ($60, 2 players) Hero is SB
Hero raises to $80, SergioBelotti raises to $160, Hero calls $80

Flop: ($260, 2 players)
SergioBelotti checks, Hero bets $200, SergioBelotti raises to $400, Hero goes all-in $650, SergioBelotti calls $250

Turn: ($1,560, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1,560, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1,560
SergioBelotti shows

Hero shows


SergioBelotti wins $1,620 (net +$810)

Hero lost $810



ovdje je read bio ko kuca s cim radi al jbga, nisam izdrzo

$30/$60 No Limit Holdem
iPoker
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
SB Hero ($1,200)
BB pokerlady1987 ($1,800)

Pre-Flop: ($90, 2 players) Hero is SB
Hero raises to $120, pokerlady1987 calls $60

Flop: ($210, 2 players)
pokerlady1987 checks, Hero bets $180, pokerlady1987 goes all-in $1,680, Hero goes all-in $900

Turn: ($2,970, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($2,970, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $2,970
Hero shows

pokerlady1987 shows


pokerlady1987 wins $3,000 (net +$1,140)

Hero lost $1,200

Možda se nebi trebao miješati u HU, pogotovo ne na ovim levelima, ali ne mogu ne primjetiti da je ovakva igra suluda i barem meni nema nikakvog smisla. Pustimo sad što je u 2. ruci frajer izvukao 2 outa, ali plaćati 1500$ sa 6;10 off nemogu razumjeti.

Kaj i inače ovako izgleda HU na ovim levelima?

Sori ako je komentar u kurcu, stvarno se ne kužim.

OK, tnx, zanemarite, glup sam.

@ kanper

Na njegov raise na flopu je bilo očito da ima ili J ili jaki pocket par, moguće i FD makar bi ga dosta rjeđe stavija na FD s obzirom na preflop 3bet. Na flopu je, baren meni bez da sam vidija rezultat ruke, bilo jasno da si u toj situaciji vrlo često na gubitku.

Ja osobno ne bi platija preflop 3bet ka shortstack sa KTo!
Minraise preflop sa KTo - OK, more proći, makar si mora računati na to da imaš 20BB i da će te na većinu raiseova dostojni protivnik početi shoveati sve učestalije na tvoje raiseove a nije da ga baš moreš callati sa KTo.

Naravno, neman dovoljno informacija za takav sud niti znam koliko je recimo vrimena ostalo do kraja blind levela, ali ja osobno sa KTo sa 20BB ne bi platija 3bet ni pod razno. Općenito kako vrime odmiče, a ti si short, dobar bi odgovor na 3bet bija shove, puno rađe nego stavljanje petine svog stacka u pot s rukom koja se OK flopa, ali ništa posebno. No sa KTo nije isplativo shoveati kod 20BB.

Eto ako se mene pita, s ovakvim rukama ne bi platija 3bet od lika van pozicije jer to, ukoliko nije manijak, više-manje znači da ima hand bolji od tebe. A ti si, pored toga short...

Što se druge ruke tiče, morat ćeš nam pobliže okarakterizirati pokerlady1987 ka igračicu jer osim ako je bolesno tight ovaj raise preflop je previše "wide", a pogotovo sa 20BB.

Vizionarstvo nema sta ... ja izludim kad igram HU SNG , tu ljudi dodji kad ih istiltaju na cashu

Takvi su dobri Ako vole botun "rematch" i više nego dobri

@ZDMitch: protivnik iz prve ruke je bio jako jako loose agresivan, 60% 3bet, sa BB je igrao 80/60 a cbet je bio 67% i jedna stvar koja je ovdje odigrala kljucnu ulogu je bila ta da kad je flopao monstera je odigrao jako pasivno te u 3betanim potovima uvijek je ispaljivao cbet. Tu nisam racunao na J ni u kom slucaju, ali dogodilo se

druga ruka ista situacija takva bila je to isto napravila sa 44 na 882 flopu. gotovo uvijek na takvo flopu nece agresivno odigrati neku premium ruku i navlace da se zajebem. sa BB je igrala 67/7

Ako je protivnik tipični LAG i jako puno 3beta, a ti si short, shippanje ti je puno bolja opcija nego plaćanje tih 3beta. Shippneš jednom, shippneš dvaput i bogami će pazit s kakvim rukama 3beta.

A ovako mu platiš 3bet sa polusmećem i dobiješ to što si dobija Moraš se prilagođavati u toku igre, imati taktiku protiv takvih igrača, "go with the flow" nije pametna strategija jer meč većinom pobjeđuje onaj ko nametne svoju igru, tako ja gledan na HU SNG.

Što se tiče druge ruke i nije problem flop koliko preflop. 6To nije ruka za pfr osim protiv jako tight igrača kojem ćeš raiseom krasti blindse. A ova mi po flop igri i ne djeluje neka tajterica jer shippa big time, dakle to je protiv takve igračice u velikoj većini slučajeva čisto bacanje love u teškim i diskutabilnim situacijama.

Da još malo razvijemo diskusiju.

HU je igra koja još nije u potpunosti izučena koliko ostale inačice i stvarno more biti zlatni rudnik, cash verzija doduše više nego SNG, ali i na SNG se da dobro uzeti.

Poanta je da loši igrači znaju da moraju igrati agresivnije nego full-ring i znaju da moraju igrati širi range. Ali svejedno ne znaju kako i kad igrati agresivno i koliko širi range.

Ako imaš manijaka s druge strane stola, a na manjim limitima ćeš ga često imati, moraš gledati kako se igra razvija i prilagođavati se. Svoj range suziti, igrati TAG i čekati priliku. Nigdi nije priša.
Imaš luđaka koji svaki tvoj limp raiseaju jer misle da si slab, a na raise ili callaju ili foldaju. Onda lipo počneš limpati gornji dio rangea, a otvaraš s donjim. Sve je stvar prilagodbe.

Protiv loših LAG igrača nemoj otvarati sa 6To i sličnim rukama, protiv njih moraš igrati više TAG. Oni će ti često platiti s relativnim smećem, ali ti moraš biti taj koji vodi igru, ne oni! Takvi igrači su skloni s marginalnom rukom povući puno iracionalniji potez nego ti, potez koji nećeš moći ni htjeti platiti... ne zovu ih "maniacs" za vraga

Dakle, otvaraj s pozicije s gornjim dijelom rangea i ako te često 3betaju vrlo često ćeš ih dominirati sa svojim gornjim dijelom rangea i nemoj se ustručavati 4betati ili shippati priko njihovog 3beta jer će ti takvi to često platiti sa A2-AT, KJ, QJ itd. Da, moreš naletiti na premium, ali u puno slučajeva ćeš ih dominirati i to je isplativ play.

Moj idući teoretski video za Pokericu bit će upravo o prilagodbi i različitim vrstama protivnika te kako adaptirati svoj stil njihovoj igri u HUSNG-ovima

Jel moze netko od admina ili modova ove zadnje postove sto se tice HUSNG-a prebacit u strategijski dio foruma da ne postane ovo off topic a opet se moze razivti dobra rasprava te nekom sljedecem koga bude zanimalo moze lako to naci i mozda nesto novo nauciti.

hvala

No Limit Holdem Tournament
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com


Stacks:
UTG rhcp2006 (3,100)
UTG+1 Hero (2,440)
MP moreball (3,119)
CO rafaelsous (474)
BTN URmyRailbird (2,885)
SB vevis6 (2,115)
BB punkyfish92 (5,787)

Blinds: 50/100

Pre-Flop: (150, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1
rhcp2006 raises to 400, Hero raises to 1,000, 5 folds, rhcp2006 goes all-in 3,100, Hero goes all-in 1,440

Flop: (5,690, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (5,690, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (5,690, 2 players, 2 all-in)
rhcp2006 says "lol"

Final Pot: 5,690
Hero shows a full house, Kings full of Aces

rhcp2006 shows four of a kind, Kings


rhcp2006 wins 5,690 (net +2,590)

Hero lost 2,440

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
Everest Poker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Murmeltier28 ($32.75)
UTG+1 TrueChamp ($106.50)
CO Beerlow ($102.55)
BTN WongSuan ($72.80)
SB Hero ($52.95)
BB MistaBad ($44.65)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MistaBad raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, MistaBad calls $9

Flop: ($27, 2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, MistaBad goes all-in $31.15, Hero calls $18.65

Turn: ($89.30, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($89.30, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $89.30
Hero shows

MistaBad shows


MistaBad wins $86.30 (net +$41.65)

Hero lost $44.65

Isuse kriste ja sam mislio da ovog samo na bestpokeru ima. Kad ono!

haha ziher. Isti straight flush u istoj minuti na 2 razlicita rush stola. Nisam imao straight flush u zadnjih 200k handova.

http://weaktight.com/2608548
http://weaktight.com/2608553

Khm, sry, ali di je str flush u drugom handu? :/

hahahaha ja sam lud. Ubio me ovaj rush

Danas me neće fullovi.


$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10)
UTG+1 descarado ($4.78)
MP1 RD255 ($10.10)
MP2 amy2288 ($10.66)
CO cbzsta ($11.22)
BTN zeke bruce ($1.45)
SB KK_GR000T ($14.97)
BB KBJ1207 ($12.67)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, amy2288 calls $0.35, 1 fold, zeke bruce calls $0.35, KK_GR000T calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.50, 4 players)
KK_GR000T checks, Hero bets $0.90, 1 fold, zeke bruce goes all-in $1.10, KK_GR000T calls $1.10, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($4.80, 3 players, 1 all-in)
KK_GR000T checks, Hero bets $3, KK_GR000T calls $3

River: ($10.80, 3 players, 1 all-in)
KK_GR000T checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $10.80
KK_GR000T shows a full house, Aces full of Nines

Hero shows

zeke bruce shows a full house, Aces full of Nines


KK_GR000T wins $7.84 (net +$3.39)

Hero lost $4.45
amy2288 lost $0.35




$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($16.26)
UTG+1 wakawaka12 ($11.82)
MP1 Poolabash ($9.55)
MP2 Laurettee ($10.15)
CO HAF107 ($4.50)
BTN dujon1 ($10.60)
SB MJG146 ($20.50)
BB mr Koinov ($3.65)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG
Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, HAF107 calls $0.10, 2 folds, mr Koinov checks

Flop: ($0.35, 3 players)
mr Koinov checks, Hero bets $0.20, HAF107 raises to $0.40, mr Koinov folds, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, HAF107 bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($1.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, HAF107 bets $1.10, Hero raises to $4.65, HAF107 goes all-in $2.80

Final Pot: $9.90
HAF107 shows a full house, Eights full of Tens

Hero shows


HAF107 wins $8.54 (net +$4.04)

Hero collects $0.75 (net -$4.50)
mr Koinov lost $0.10



$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG hEssapOn ($14)
UTG+1 tommy688 ($8.37)
MP1 KerlonZadam ($10)
MP2 Hero ($10.40)
CO diskostux ($6.38)
BTN Poolabash ($9.55)
SB MJG146 ($10)
BB GoldRiverBoy ($10.17)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is MP2
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, MJG146 calls $0.30, GoldRiverBoy calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.05, 3 players)
MJG146 checks, GoldRiverBoy checks, Hero bets $0.60, MJG146 folds, GoldRiverBoy calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.25, 2 players)
GoldRiverBoy checks, Hero bets $1.60, GoldRiverBoy calls $1.60

River: ($5.45, 2 players)
GoldRiverBoy checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $5.45
GoldRiverBoy shows a full house, Aces full of Sixes

Hero shows


GoldRiverBoy wins $5.09 (net +$2.54)

MJG146 lost $0.35
Hero lost $2.55



$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
FullTiltPoker
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG faruk_06 ($20.08)
UTG+1 Hero ($10)
MP1 xupeng ($4.20)
MP2 donkeycorrentin ($10.38)
CO Sworry ($10)
BTN KerlonZadam ($10.03)
SB El_Palaz ($10)
BB hEssapOn ($10.91)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1
faruk_06 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, donkeycorrentin raises to $1.90, 4 folds, faruk_06 folds, Hero calls $1.45

Flop: ($4.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, donkeycorrentin bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($7.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, donkeycorrentin calls $2.50

River: ($12.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, donkeycorrentin goes all-in $4.48, Hero goes all-in $4.10

Final Pot: $20.63
Hero shows

donkeycorrentin shows a full house, Kings full of Threes


donkeycorrentin wins $19.28 (net +$8.90)

Hero lost $10
faruk_06 lost $0.10

lol koji niz
btw zas callas 3bet s QQ?

evo jedan hand koji sam odigrao s igracem koji se zove "Lucky Pro" haha
po historyu nikako nije mogao imati Ax u ruci i konstantno je callao sve zivo


No Limit Holdem Tournament
PartyPoker
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
SB Player1 (3,000)
BB Hero (1,125)

Blinds: 15/30

Pre-Flop: (45, 2 players) Hero is BB
Player1 calls 15, Hero raises to 120, Player1 calls 90

Flop: (240, 2 players)
Hero bets 150, Player1 calls 150

Turn: (540, 2 players)
Hero bets 300, Player1 calls 300

River: (1,140, 2 players)
Hero bets 555, Player1 calls 555

Final Pot: 2,250
Player1 shows

Hero shows


Player1 wins 2,250 (net +1,125)

Hero lost 1,125