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    PostSubject: NL 100:TP deep OOP   17.12.11 19:58

    Evo nije bilo ništa odavno, a nije ni mene bilo:)
    villain je relativni unknown, na 100-ak handova klasika 23/17/6,opena s butona 40-ak%...hand dva prije ovog me isplatio u 3b potu IP s 88 na 39910J ja sam ima AA,,amo reć da sam bija agro pa me vjerojatno takvog percipira (iako san u biti teški tajter:) )
    U biti me zanima najviše river,,koji je najbolji play...svjestan sam da prije rivera se to moglo i puno drugčije od 3b pre i tako,,al nešto eksperimentiram s playevima a i bili smo deep te sam nekako osjećao da ako hitam nešto ka ovo da bi mi moglo bit dosta...

    ma eto samo da se raspravlja nešto Smile

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    Stacks:
    UTG (€50)
    CO (€66.20)
    BTN (€377.11)
    HERO (SB) (€235.80)
    BB (€100)

    Pre-Flop: (€1.50, 5 players) HERO is SB
    2 folds, BTN raises to €3, hero calls €2.50, 1 fold

    Flop: (€7, 2 players)
    hero checks, BTN bets €5, hero raises to €13, BTN calls €8

    Turn: (€33, 2 players)
    hero bets €19, BTN calls €19

    River: (€71, 2 players)
    hero checks, BTN bets €48, €48 to hero (€200.8)?
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   18.12.11 11:18

    ako crejzas flop za value i betas turn za value, neznam zasto i river ne betas za value? pogotovo zbog imidza tvog: sto si rekao da te isplatio kad si imo aa itd..
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   21.12.11 18:44

    finddagrinder wrote:
    ako crejzas flop za value i betas turn za value, neznam zasto i river ne betas za value? pogotovo zbog imidza tvog: sto si rekao da te isplatio kad si imo aa itd..

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    ovako odigrano mislim da je river fold, teško je reć. Zašto nisi betao river?
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   22.12.11 23:37

    Da, ako je villan sklon malo light callovima na riveru kao sto je pokazao onda se i meni bet na riveru vise sviđa jer mi repamo prilicno uzak value range sa nasim lineom (bar mislim) i villan bi nas trebao isplatit sa 99, Jx i sl handovima..
    Sad pitanje je koliki dio villanovog rangea se sastoji od tih handova tj. dali je u stanju floutat 2 streeta (obzirom da smo c/r-om na flopu tako polarizirani, IP je i stackovi su deep), sa namjerom da oduzme pot na turnu ili riveru..
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   23.12.11 12:38

    Sta nas na riveru beata od toga sto je tako odigrao na flopu i turnu?

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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   24.12.11 12:36

    RedRaw wrote:
    Sta nas na riveru beata od toga sto je tako odigrao na flopu i turnu?


    33/66/JJ/AJ/QQ+/dvopari?
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   25.12.11 12:17

    DirtyCash90s wrote:
    RedRaw wrote:
    Sta nas na riveru beata od toga sto je tako odigrao na flopu i turnu?


    33/66/JJ/AJ/QQ+/dvopari?


    +1 osim dvopara jer ne vidim koji bi to dvopar mogao dovuć

    mislim da prerijetko vilian tu beta slabije, a obzirom da voli isplatit gubiš dosta valuea jer ne betaš river

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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   25.12.11 12:58

    Bora Tajter wrote:
    DirtyCash90s wrote:
    RedRaw wrote:
    Sta nas na riveru beata od toga sto je tako odigrao na flopu i turnu?


    33/66/JJ/AJ/QQ+/dvopari?


    +1 osim dvopara jer ne vidim koji bi to dvopar mogao dovuć


    A neznam, ako otvara ATC na BTN onda bi razne dvopare mogao imat. Upitno je samo koliko agresivno ih odigrava, dakle dal će nas 3betat na flopu ili raisea-at kasnije sa pokupljenim dvoparom il što već...
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   25.12.11 19:16

    Pitao sam to jer je moje misljenje da ce sve ove jace ruke odigrati jace, tj. da ce 3betnuti flop ili raiseati turn.Od dvopara moze imati J7 i J6 ili pokupljeni dvopar 67, s tim da smatram da su i J6 i J7 slabo vjerojatni. Osobno, vise bi se okrenuo tome da je u pitanju Jx ili QQ+ jer smatram da s njima nece fastplayati na ovom boardu deep. thoughts?

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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   25.12.11 20:51

    mislim da on tu overpar/set skoro nikad ne 3beta na flopu jer je board super suh i gotovo nema karte koja mu ubija akciju.
    A mislim da slabiji hand od našeg ne value beta+ne vidim tu neke zrakove koje može imat na river
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   09.01.12 10:08

    ima AJ/QQ+ ovdje skoro 100%

    check/fold i bet/fold ~50 mi se cine podjednako ok za river
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   09.01.12 11:38

    p0tc0ntr0l wrote:
    ima AJ/QQ+ ovdje skoro 100%

    check/fold i bet/fold ~50 mi se cine podjednako ok za river


    Ako skoro 100% ima AJ/QQ+ kako ti se onda cini ok betat 50% puta? Smile
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    PostSubject: Re: NL 100:TP deep OOP   09.01.12 14:03

    Odluku o betu donosimo na riveru dok jos nemamo informaciju da li on ima namjeru betat sa QQ+ ili check behindat sa handovima tipa JT, J9, 99-88 i sl.
    Kad checkiramo na riveru i on beta, tad mu dajemo ovaj range jer vjerojatno to ne radi sa 99
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